Today we are looking at the new TaylorMade R7 CGB MAX Irons. These are not to be confused with the r7 CGB Max irons…oh wait, I guess they are pretty easy to confuse…name wise at least. A mere glance at the club will reveal numerous differences between the 2006 model and the 2008 version.
Now…let’s get onto the review!
Background
TaylorMade vowed to make the new r7 CGB MAX family of clubs to be the very best game-improvement equipment that money can buy, and the iron lives up to that promise. The extremely large head is optimally weighted with the help of visible tungsten weights that increase MOI for greater stability and forgiveness. The topline is hollow and the saved weight is used to move the CG deep into the clubhead to make it incredibly easy to launch the ball on a towering, distance-enhancing flight. Clubhead speed is dramatically boosted by the incorporation of SuperFast Technology, which includes the ultra-light shaft and the thin, flexible and fast clubface (thinner than the previous r7 CGB MAX model). There’s also TaylorMade’s Inverted Cone Technology, visible on the back of the face, to promote high ball speed on off-center hits. Finally, there’s a new back-cavity badge that contributes to the clubhead’s great feel.
When you add up all of the features and technologies you get the longest iron in the TaylorMade iron line, as well as the most forgiving. If this iron were any easier to hit it would swing itself. Moreover, the r7 CGB MAX wears its multiple technologies beautifully, meaning it looks the part of a highly technical, highly hittable iron and boasts a unique and eye-appealing look that successfully blends its high-tech leanings with power and with grace.
Look and Feel
These clubs look very cutting edge. Given that they are TaylorMade, this is not very surprising. TaylorMade always seems to come up with high tech looking club offerings. From the textured black area on the backside of the clubface, to the black steel shafts…head to toe, these irons will look awesome in your bag.
The topline of the R7 CGB Max irons is pretty typical of today’s super game improvement irons. It’s rather thick and a little brighter looking than the more satin look of the Burner XD irons. Each iron pictured below is a 7 iron. If you are accustomed to playing blades or player type irons, you may be disgusted by such a thick topline…but…you probably aren’t looking at irons like this anyway. Personally, it doesn’t bother me. In fact, all that meat behind the ball…you really feel like you should have no problem walloping the ball with every swing.
Again, as with most super game improvement irons, the offset is rather substantial as you get toward the longer irons. You can see the offset in the 7 iron of the R7 CGB Max irons, compared to that of the Burner XD and Callaway X-20. The offset of the TaylorMade clubs appears to be a little less than that of the Callaway X-20s. It’s actually just a visual effect. The TaylorMade clubs do a good job of hiding the offset. In the 7 iron, the R7 CGB Max has 5.7mm of offset. If you have been playing with game improvement irons, this will be nothing new to you. If you have a problem with slicing the ball, or never have been able to hit a draw…the added offset should help you get the ball left. Especially in the longer irons.
Feel wise, I was not a huge fan. They are a little harsh, and did not feel as explosive as the Burner XD irons. Nonetheless, they do not feel (to me) much different than earlier TaylorMade game improvement offerings (RAC OS2/etc). As always, however, feel is very objective. What feels great to one person, feels awful to another. I certainly was not completely put off by these, but I would not go telling everyone I met that these irons felt like butter. One thing, take it as a positive or negative…thin, fat…toe…heel…it all feels pretty similar. You certainly will not be screaming in pain if you thin a shot in 40 degree weather. All that being said, for a cast, cavity back iron with a ton of technology in place to try and help you hit the ball straight…the feel was pretty decent.
Performance
If you are unable to hit these clubs high and straight…you should avoid purchasing any other golf equipment. I did not particularly care for the feel off the face of these clubs, but I could not argue with the performance. Regardless of where I seemed to hit the ball on the face, the ball wanted to launch high, fly straight and land soft. Even thin shots got up fairly high. Distance loss on toe/heel hits was rather minimal. I certainly have not hit a more forgiving iron.
Distance wise, these clubs were a good 5-10 yards shorter than the Burner XD irons for me. They were pretty similar distance wise to the Callaway X-20 irons or the Nike Sumo irons. The long irons got up very high. I was hitting the 5 iron about the same height as the 7 iron from my MP-33 set of irons. The pitching wedge was extremely high for me, generating a lot of backspin. Certainly enough backspin to stop the ball dead on any green I played.
The black steel shafts are very cool looking in person. The matte finish would be a plus for anyone who is bothered by sun reflections on conventional steel shafts. They are quite light, and in stiff flex, they felt relatively stout. The shaft’s bend profile and light weight probably helped contribute to the high ball flight. The light weight should also help increase one’s swing speed a little, contributing to a little increase in distance. Combined with the weight of the club head itself, I never felt like the club was too light. If you are accustomed to graphite shafts, they can be had for an additional $200 for the set.
Conclusion
If you are looking for a super game improvement iron I do not think you could go wrong choosing either the R7 CGB Max or Burner XD irons. If you want a little more distance/bragging rights…go for the Burner XDs. If you want to hit the ball straighter, and get away with more poor swings…go for the R7 CGB Max irons. It is as simple as that.
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I’m torn between these three at the moment. If you had to pick one of these clubs… Burner XD, CGB Max, or the x20 which would you select?
Depends what you’re looking for…
Distance: Burner XD
Forgiveness: CGB Max
Little Mix of both…and less expensive: X-20
I’d goto a range and hit all three. See which one you feel most comfortable with.
Is there a huge difference between the 2006 and 2008 versions performance? I am looking between the two and am not sure if i should spend the extra $300-400 if its about the same. Any help would be appreciated!!
Tommy,
I have not hit the 2006 version of the R7 CGB Irons. I would assume there are subtle differences, increased MOI in the newer version of the club. Would you notice them? I couldn’t tell you. Places like golfsmith probably still have some of the 06 models in the demo bin, you may want to go hit them side by side to compare.
-Sean
I just got a set of these irons from Golf Galaxy in Miami alond with driver and 3 wood … and I must say I am very impressed. I shot a 78 in Doral on the Blue Monster. The only problem was gauging the distances. I usually hit my 6 iron around 180 yards with my Ping I5’s. On one of my birdies I used a 6 iron on a par 3 where the flag was 196 yards and ball landed about 6 feet from pin. I would estimate at least 1.5 club difference in distance … for example a pitching wedge now becomes a gap wedge and a 3 iron is a 4 iron … or something like that. It takes a while to re-adjust for distance and the amazing thing is that although ball flight if very high … there is very little loss of distance against wind … something else to adjust for. I remember a while back where I had the Titanium inserts Biggest Big Bertha … you had the balloon effect which would cause even the long irons to go very short against wind … not the case here. I did not like the CBX woods though … on the 3 wood the ball flight is way too high … and the driver also has a terribly high ball flight (9.5 degree stiff shaft). I think it probably has something to do with the shaft since the heads look nice and should work good. So now I use the Irons where I had to flatten them 1 degree (it was very difficult to bend them). But for woods I went back to my FT-5 driver and 3 wood.
One thing I forgot to say … the irons are not for someone who likes to shape the ball a lot. It is very hard to hit a fade or a draw at will. You really have to open up the clubface for a fade and can easily overdo it. I didn’t like that at first … but I sort of got used to just hitting the ball straight at the point I am aiming for. Again it takes some getting used to, and at the range my brother could shape the ball better than me with them … so it could be me but personally I found it almost impossible to shape the ball without doing weird exagerrated things to my swing.
spiro, I had the same sort of experience you had in regards to the ball just going straight. For most people who would buy these clubs, that is probably a good thing!
I did not see a huge increase in distance with these over other super game improvement irons, though they definitely will hit it a lot further than your every day cavity back. The Burner XD irons, on the other hand…those things were rocket launchers!
Glad you like them, and thanks for the details of your experience!
-Sean
I just bought the CGB max graphite irons and the guy at Dick’s told me something very interesting.
The clubs are “tweaked” - in that a 6 iron is lofted like another clubs 4 iron. I normally hit a 6 iron around 170 yards and I was hitting it over 200. Part is due tot he quality of the club - part is the loft.
Not sure how they get away with doing that, but it’s very interesting. I think it’s why they are selling 4-SW sets (no 3 iron)….
Haven’t got the clubs yet, but I loved hitting them at the range (replacing some 9 year old lcg irons I had..
Good luck.
OK I have played with them a little more and definetely something is strange. I now have my Pitching Wedge going over 140 yards and I am starting to not feel I have control over the shorter distances. I think I will remove the Pitching Wedge and use a set of Cleveland Wedges. The P seems to be the equivalent of a 9 iron on the MP67’s or Ping I5’s and that is being conservative. I feel on the shorter irons you need a little more control and feel and these clubs don’t seem to have that. So if I was going to do it over again I would get the 4,5,6,7,8,9 … and then just use my 48,52,56 Cleveland wedges. There might still be a gap between the 9 and 48. I still need some more experimenting to do and will try to take some balls and test it on the course itself with a range finder. My Cleveland 48 goes around 125 yards … the A that comes with the set seems to go a little more than that. I had a terrible experience the other day when at 137 yard par 3 back pin placement I overflew the green down the hill and ruined an otherwise great round.
I would like to say it could also be the ball as well. I usually use Pro V1 or V1X and now I am using the TM TP RED which is according to the guys at the shop supposed to be similar to the V1 X (softer ball). I liked that ball because it doesn’t run too much … maybe that ball goes longer too?
Man so many things to think about.
Spiro,
I think you will find this with most super game improvement irons. Most sets are at least 46* on the PW now, if not 44*. They really are 2-9 now, loft wise.
You can probably do 4-PW and then carry a 48, 52, 56, 60. Or perhaps 50, 54, 58.
I do not think it is the ball. I have been playing the 2007 TP Red the past few months, and I do not find it to be too long. Now, the 2008 LDP one, maybe that’s longer?
Bought the R7 cgb max irons about a month ago…and WOW do these things get the ball in the air. Lowered my score from an average of about 95 to an 85 so far…and im still trying to learn the distance with these clubs. They FLYYYYY off the face of the club and are so forgiving almost every shot looks perfect. WORTH THE MONEY…even though very pricey…wow i would but them again given the chance!
Tommy,
Great news, thanks for sharing with us! I noticed the same with the R7 CGB Max…high flying…as are the Burner XD irons. Perhaps some of that is due to the very light shafts in these clubs. Did you get the stock black steel shafts?
-Sean